Comments for Who Asked Me? http://kiltze.wordpress.com Political Commentary from an independant perspective. Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:26:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Following Utah Persons And Businesses Financially Supported Proposition 8: by BLDPS http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-following-people-and-businesses-financially-supported-proposition-8/#comment-196 BLDPS Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:26:21 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=125#comment-196 Thanks for the list. I will be sure to support these businesses. Thanks for the list. I will be sure to support these businesses.

]]> Comment on I Just Dont Get It by kiltze http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/i-just-dont-get-it/#comment-195 kiltze Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:23:53 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-195 The use of force was never in question by anyone but Eric E. I for one do think it was very appropriate given the fact that drunk people can be unpredictable. The kiss-ins are taking place off of church property on the adjacent sidewalks. They are protesting what they call unfairness as the church allows straight people to kiss on the plaza. My point is that the church can be as unfair as they want on their own private property. The use of force was never in question by anyone but Eric E. I for one do think it was very appropriate given the fact that drunk people can be unpredictable. The kiss-ins are taking place off of church property on the adjacent sidewalks. They are protesting what they call unfairness as the church allows straight people to kiss on the plaza. My point is that the church can be as unfair as they want on their own private property.

]]> Comment on I Just Dont Get It by C. http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/i-just-dont-get-it/#comment-194 C. Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:02:24 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-194 Bearing in mind that this post is the first I'm hearing of this whole situation, I would say that yes, the church had the right to ask the two men to leave and upon refusal had the right to restrain them until police could remove them. However, just based on the comment thread you posted, I'd need more details, but I would say there might be cause for excessive force. Just on its face, six sober men against two drunk men is questionable -- and no, I don't think just because "they wouldn't leave!" justifies beatings, and I REALLY don't think it justifies shootings, but I think I agree with Eric E. that that's an entirely different discussion. As for whether or not the "kiss-ins" are approrpiate...what exactly are those? Are they regular, sign-holding protests (now with 90 percent more kissing) off of the church property? Are they people going onto the property, kissing and leaving (or not leaving until police are called)? Are people protesting the force that was used to detain the men or the fact that they were detained at all? Apparently, I'll have to look it up. A protest against the level of force (if it truly was severe) I can understand, but I would tend to agree that a protest about the detention seems ill-advised to me. But then, I never bought the "any attention is good attention" line. Bearing in mind that this post is the first I’m hearing of this whole situation, I would say that yes, the church had the right to ask the two men to leave and upon refusal had the right to restrain them until police could remove them.

However, just based on the comment thread you posted, I’d need more details, but I would say there might be cause for excessive force. Just on its face, six sober men against two drunk men is questionable — and no, I don’t think just because “they wouldn’t leave!” justifies beatings, and I REALLY don’t think it justifies shootings, but I think I agree with Eric E. that that’s an entirely different discussion.

As for whether or not the “kiss-ins” are approrpiate…what exactly are those? Are they regular, sign-holding protests (now with 90 percent more kissing) off of the church property? Are they people going onto the property, kissing and leaving (or not leaving until police are called)? Are people protesting the force that was used to detain the men or the fact that they were detained at all? Apparently, I’ll have to look it up.

A protest against the level of force (if it truly was severe) I can understand, but I would tend to agree that a protest about the detention seems ill-advised to me. But then, I never bought the “any attention is good attention” line.

]]> Comment on Happy Holidays! Ok, I Couldn’t Think Of A Witty Title For This Post So I Decided To Use An Easy One… by Pop http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/happy-holidays-ok-i-couldnt-think-of-a-witty-title-for-this-post-so-i-decided-to-use-an-easy-one/#comment-190 Pop Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:17:13 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=135#comment-190 Right on BBB. Unions stymie productivity. Unions have too much control. Unions should assure safe working conditions and fair tratment of employees but should stay out of management decisions. Affirmative Action becomes reverse discrimination. Right on BBB. Unions stymie productivity. Unions have too much control. Unions should assure safe working conditions and fair tratment of employees but should stay out of management decisions. Affirmative Action becomes reverse discrimination.

]]> Comment on Happy Holidays! Ok, I Couldn’t Think Of A Witty Title For This Post So I Decided To Use An Easy One… by BBB http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/happy-holidays-ok-i-couldnt-think-of-a-witty-title-for-this-post-so-i-decided-to-use-an-easy-one/#comment-189 BBB Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:19:24 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=135#comment-189 I ..concur, although it is hard to justify bailing out the ‘Big 3’. UAW members are making $70hr and getting healthcare for life. The idea of unions is not what Joe Hill and others had envisioned, I am sure. I ..concur, although it is hard to justify bailing out the ‘Big 3’. UAW members are making $70hr and getting healthcare for life. The idea of unions is not what Joe Hill and others had envisioned, I am sure.

]]> Comment on Happy Holidays! Ok, I Couldn’t Think Of A Witty Title For This Post So I Decided To Use An Easy One… by Pop http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/happy-holidays-ok-i-couldnt-think-of-a-witty-title-for-this-post-so-i-decided-to-use-an-easy-one/#comment-188 Pop Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:38:27 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=135#comment-188 When you're right you're right. Eric, you're right! When you’re right you’re right. Eric, you’re right!

]]> Comment on Happy Holidays! Ok, I Couldn’t Think Of A Witty Title For This Post So I Decided To Use An Easy One… by Misty Fowler http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/happy-holidays-ok-i-couldnt-think-of-a-witty-title-for-this-post-so-i-decided-to-use-an-easy-one/#comment-187 Misty Fowler Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:50:06 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=135#comment-187 Not that you're angry, right? Not that you’re angry, right?

]]> Comment on Here Is What Would Happen If Gays Were Allowed To Marry: by C. http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/here-is-what-would-happen-if-gays-were-allowed-to-marry/#comment-186 C. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:05:40 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=130#comment-186 I love this graph. I really hate it when people are all "Oh! If the gays are allowed to marry, then straight marriages will be in danger!!!" By the way, if you haven't seen Bill Maher's movie "Religulous," I would highly recommend it. A preview is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gxc0XEoQpQ I love this graph. I really hate it when people are all “Oh! If the gays are allowed to marry, then straight marriages will be in danger!!!”

By the way, if you haven’t seen Bill Maher’s movie “Religulous,” I would highly recommend it. A preview is here:

]]> Comment on OK CNN, Seriously, I Mean Seriously… by Pop http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/ok-cnn-seriously-i-mean-seriously/#comment-185 Pop Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:20:40 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=133#comment-185 I guess advertising has blinders. The allmighty buck! I guess advertising has blinders. The allmighty buck!

]]> Comment on The Following Utah Persons And Businesses Financially Supported Proposition 8: by The Following Persons And Businesses Financially Supported Proposition 8: | carpentershoes.com http://kiltze.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-following-people-and-businesses-financially-supported-proposition-8/#comment-184 The Following Persons And Businesses Financially Supported Proposition 8: | carpentershoes.com Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:19:18 +0000 http://kiltze.wordpress.com/?p=125#comment-184 [...] Read more from the original source [...] [...] Read more from the original source [...]

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